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speaker nancy pelosi helped create the oce as a solution. in just four years they have done more than 100 investigations of lawmakers raising serious questions about possible congressional misdeeds. in 37 of those investigations, the oce referred them on to the actual house ethics committee for further review, meaning that in those 37 cases, the oce found reason to believe that house ethics and sometimes federal laws were likely violated. so why exactly does congress want to kill it? actuallyering that's hard to say. folks like these who have in the past voted to cut the o ce budgt or limit its powers refused to talk to us. for those who would talk, opinions were mixed. >> i think it's important there be some way for the public, for someone outside of congress to raise issues about the conduct of members of congress. one of the things that -- is it oce, oce has sent to the ethics committee was actually pretty flimsy. >> i supported it the first time, i'll support it again. >> i don't think it's working well. >> is there anything oce has done
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at least so far as nancy pelosi is concerned. you can see this tape. she obviously has left the meeting. john boehner, the speaker of the house, has also been seen leaving. so what we want to do is find out what is going on here. obviously we have our jessica yellin there and we will talk to her a little later about what she has learned. now, the fiscal cliff and these last-ditch talks is the only game in town. joining me for today's strategy session is roland martin and cnn contributor erick erickson, editor-in-chief of. they are saying, hey, we don't have to compromise. we have more people in congress coming in that are democrats. the president doesn't have to give on that $250,000 top. where do you stand on this? do you think the president does or should compromise up to -- particularly on the tax issue? >> you can't be a democrat and ask republicans to compromise if you don't want to give up something. i think the president clearly understood that. so when he laid the $250,000 out, he gave himself some room because, again, you saw speaker boehner's
at least so far as nancy pelosi is concerned. you can see this tape. she obviously has left the meeting. john boehner, the speaker of the house, has also been seen leaving. so what we want to do is find out what is going on here. obviously we have our jessica yellin there and we will talk to her a little later about what she has learned. now, the fiscal cliff and these last-ditch talks is the only game in town. joining me for today's strategy session is roland martin and cnn contributor erick...
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for house speaker john boehner to agree to bring it to a vote on the house floor, and leader nancy pelosi to produce the huge number of democrats needed to pass it. but if that plan falls through -- >> then i will urge senator reid to bring to the floor a basic package for an up or down vote. >> the president's basic package has much more for democrats to like. so don't expect that to get very far. but all sides now agree the senate must first pass a bill before the house makes any kind of move. so all eyes will be on mitch mcconnell and harry reid and their negotiators holed up on capitol hill. the senate comes back into session at 1:00 on sunday. >> jessica yellin, thanks. >>> and with the pressure now squarely on the senate to fix the fiscal cliff, they will lead the talks this weekend. a period of time reid calls, quote, very important, mcconnell says he's hopeful both sides will have a plan to present to their respective members as early as tomorrow. and other republican and democratic senators are underscoring the importance of reaching an agreement soon. >> if we don't have a deal
for house speaker john boehner to agree to bring it to a vote on the house floor, and leader nancy pelosi to produce the huge number of democrats needed to pass it. but if that plan falls through -- >> then i will urge senator reid to bring to the floor a basic package for an up or down vote. >> the president's basic package has much more for democrats to like. so don't expect that to get very far. but all sides now agree the senate must first pass a bill before the house makes any...
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for house speaker john boehner to agree to bring it to a vote on the house floor and leader nancy pelosi to predict a huge number of democrats needed to pass it. but if that plan falling through -- >> then i will urge senator reid to bring to the floor a basic package for an up or down vote. >> reporter: the president's basic package has much more for democrats to like. so don't expect that to get very far, but all sides now agree the senate must first pass a bill before the house makes any kind of move. so all eyes will be on mitch mcconnell and harry reid and their negotiatorsoled up on capitol hill. the senate comes back into session at 1:00 on sunday. christi, alison? >>> and the cliffhanger continues. jessica yellin, thanks. >>> and january 1st is the deadline to make a deal on the fiscal cliff. for some states, it's a day that a series of new laws are going to take effect. let me get you clued in here. in california, talking more than 800 new laws, including one requiring apartments and condos to install carbon monoxide detectors. separately, employers will no longer be able to ask
for house speaker john boehner to agree to bring it to a vote on the house floor and leader nancy pelosi to predict a huge number of democrats needed to pass it. but if that plan falling through -- >> then i will urge senator reid to bring to the floor a basic package for an up or down vote. >> reporter: the president's basic package has much more for democrats to like. so don't expect that to get very far, but all sides now agree the senate must first pass a bill before the house...
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we have not seen speaker boehner or nancy pelosi, leader pelosi walk into the white house yet. before i plugged in at least she hadn't, they hadn't arrived. but it is a matter of minutes until they should all take their seats in the oval office and begin the discussion that should help resolve whether or not the nation will go over the fiscal cliff in the next few days. this won't end the discussion, but it should launch us into the next steps. can they hash out the basic form of an agreement, a scaled down agreement. if they reach that threshold, can the senators assure each other that they have the time to get this done and no senator will filibuster it? if that's the case, they bring it to a vote tomorrow, and/or sunday and does the house agree to bring it to a vote on the floor of the house. those are a lot of ifs and we have until just monday night to get it all done. >> you'll be standing by, watching it all with every single detail. thank you, jessica yellin. now to lisa desjardins, live on capitol hill for us. so, lisa, just caught you talking with senator ben nelson of
we have not seen speaker boehner or nancy pelosi, leader pelosi walk into the white house yet. before i plugged in at least she hadn't, they hadn't arrived. but it is a matter of minutes until they should all take their seats in the oval office and begin the discussion that should help resolve whether or not the nation will go over the fiscal cliff in the next few days. this won't end the discussion, but it should launch us into the next steps. can they hash out the basic form of an agreement,...
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the president, john boehner, nancy pelosi, harry reid, mcconnell, you don't need his support because the democrat controlled center. it is a sit doesn't have a -- >> mcconnell is very important because in the senate, you need a super majority to pass. a reason why i think if there's some kind of a deal, and i'm not that optimistic, why it has to start in the senate is you need republicans to buy in, even a little bit, in order to send any measure to the house. so by definition, to get 60 votes, you need republicans on it. that's enough to call whatever the deal is, bipartisan, which may make it easier on the house. as i said, i'm not that optimistic. >> trace: why are you not optimistic? >> part of it is structurele. house members got back at 6:30 sunday night. what if the bad weather comes that's predicted. unless a framework is hammered out that people could agree to, even a stopgap measure, there's not a lot of hours left to get everything down. a realistic deadline is january 3, none, when the new congress comes in because as we just heard, the impact of the fiscal cliff in terms
the president, john boehner, nancy pelosi, harry reid, mcconnell, you don't need his support because the democrat controlled center. it is a sit doesn't have a -- >> mcconnell is very important because in the senate, you need a super majority to pass. a reason why i think if there's some kind of a deal, and i'm not that optimistic, why it has to start in the senate is you need republicans to buy in, even a little bit, in order to send any measure to the house. so by definition, to get 60...
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and leader nancy pelosi to produce the huge number of democrats needed to pass it. if that plan falls through -- >> i will urge senator reid to bring to the floor a basic package for an up or down vote. >> so what are the chances that will happen? lisa desjardins is live on capitol hill. lisa, what is happening right now to reach a deal? who right now is involved in the negotiations? >> reporter: you know, this fiscal cliff that affects pretty much every american is now down to just a handful of people here at the capitol trying to work out a deal. at the top of the list are senators mcconnell and reid that you heard about in jessica's story. but also very important today will be their top staffers. their chiefs of staff. our producer, ted barrett, reports that the chiefs of staff will be working with each other trying to hammer out a deal, then talking to their bosses, the senators. then we'll find out tomorrow probably how far that deal can go. what's the starting point for that deal? we know a little bit. this is coming from senate majority leader harry reid as w
and leader nancy pelosi to produce the huge number of democrats needed to pass it. if that plan falls through -- >> i will urge senator reid to bring to the floor a basic package for an up or down vote. >> so what are the chances that will happen? lisa desjardins is live on capitol hill. lisa, what is happening right now to reach a deal? who right now is involved in the negotiations? >> reporter: you know, this fiscal cliff that affects pretty much every american is now down...
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you get nancy pelosi in. and you shake it up. you give the republicans something so that they can save face pup make them raise taxes. at the end of the day, nobody's happy. but stability occurs. and the thing goes forward. i am continually surprised by president obama that he lets it become these dreadful enervating dramas. >> could i just say that when ronald reagan was president and everything peggy just said is absolutely true-- >> i'm so glad. ( laughter ). >> when ronald reagan was president, grover norquist was in diapers and rush limbaugh was a disk jockey, i think, in st. louis. you have had a hermetically sealed culture grow up on the right in this country that as we saw during the last election, is removed from reality and is extreme in the most egregious way. >> and you don't have to go all the way-- >> it's much further than that. when bill clinton passed that budget deal, he didn't get a single republican vote. and there hasn't been a republican vote for tax increases in 20 years, and if the deal falls apart today--
you get nancy pelosi in. and you shake it up. you give the republicans something so that they can save face pup make them raise taxes. at the end of the day, nobody's happy. but stability occurs. and the thing goes forward. i am continually surprised by president obama that he lets it become these dreadful enervating dramas. >> could i just say that when ronald reagan was president and everything peggy just said is absolutely true-- >> i'm so glad. ( laughter ). >> when ronald...
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several years ago meeting with speaker pelosi, the twin deficit the job and the budget deficit. lori: we don't hear that. we have breaking news. urinalysis is a fascinating. deschutes your analysis is fascinating we want to have you back again. tracy: and 14 major ports that are being threatened to be shut down. we will get the latest. lori: also confidence in the global economy is higher suggesting people are picking up more security. we are back after this. she keeps you guessing. it's part of what you love about her. but your erectile dysfunction - you know, that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medications, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sexual activity. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, ashis may cause an unsafe drop in bl
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. >> nancy pelosi and a group of house democrats held a news conference promoting bills that would ban assault weapons and high capacity clips as well as other possible changes to gun laws. some of the members either lost a relative to gun violence or were shot themselves. this is almost one hour. >> these actions do not eliminate the need for a ban. that make any gun and assault weapon. he brings to this debate his own personal experience. the tragedy struck the hearts of every american. we have to respond. we can get the job done. it recalibrate the legislation in a way that is affected. we mourn the loss of prestige -- precious children. we of them to do everything in our power to take sensible actions to prevent the violence and insure the safety of a schools and neighborhoods and to build the future for all americans. i'm very pleased to yield two carolyn. >> thank you, leader pelosi for allowing us to come together again after too many types. i can't name everybody. i'll probably miss somebody. we have been here before and we have been here before. but this time, this time, the t
. >> nancy pelosi and a group of house democrats held a news conference promoting bills that would ban assault weapons and high capacity clips as well as other possible changes to gun laws. some of the members either lost a relative to gun violence or were shot themselves. this is almost one hour. >> these actions do not eliminate the need for a ban. that make any gun and assault weapon. he brings to this debate his own personal experience. the tragedy struck the hearts of every...
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member of the house, now the mayor of san diego was complaining about the kpw same thing out of the pelosi leadership for several years. let's look at what is more important. harry reid is there today, instead of taking up the bill that he should be taking up he's using this to make political points. i think that says a lot of about where we are heading. patti ann: congressman thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. gregg: fox news alert just learned now that the head of the epa, the environmental protection agency, is quitting. lisa jackson announcing she will leave her post next month. during her tenure she pushed through some of the toughest regulations on vehicle emissions and coal processing plants, proptin prompting republicans to accuse her of waging war on coal. president obama praised her for her work. in enacting those reforms. she reportedly has not accepted any other job at this time and she was in a bit of trouble for some of her email accounts recently. and some of her other remarks as well. let's go to jon scott, what is happening now, jon johnsto. jon: the pre
member of the house, now the mayor of san diego was complaining about the kpw same thing out of the pelosi leadership for several years. let's look at what is more important. harry reid is there today, instead of taking up the bill that he should be taking up he's using this to make political points. i think that says a lot of about where we are heading. patti ann: congressman thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. gregg: fox news alert just learned now that the head of the...
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leader pelosi did when she was speaker of the house. with a bill that dealt with the iraq war -- these are big, national moments. the full house should be able to work its will, democrats and republicans together. it is important the speaker put the good of the country above republican house caucus politics. >> just one more on this, because we have to go to work. >> characterized the offer is heat and the president traded last week as their bottom line. he has gone as far as he can go. >> are you talking about the next proposal? this is so out of context for me, i do not know. i think we can come to the table, iron out differences. that is how we will find everybody's bottom line. the bottom line is that the american people are working today. where is the congress? why have we not finish this task? we have had a week after week of two-day sessions. no, people are leaving. nobody knows what is going on, in terms of the schedule. we are coming to the end of the line, in terms of this year. we have to get it done. we have to avoid downgra
leader pelosi did when she was speaker of the house. with a bill that dealt with the iraq war -- these are big, national moments. the full house should be able to work its will, democrats and republicans together. it is important the speaker put the good of the country above republican house caucus politics. >> just one more on this, because we have to go to work. >> characterized the offer is heat and the president traded last week as their bottom line. he has gone as far as he can...
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and the vice president, they're going to meet with house speaker john boehner, minority leader nancy pelosi, senate majority harry reid and minority leader mitch mcconnell. that is happening this afternoon. jessica yellin is there. jess, what do we know about the president's plan to get everybody in the same room? do we think there's going to be something that comes out of this? >> reporter: well, this is one of those cases where we really are going to have to wait and see, and all the parties involved are also going in with a big question mark. the idea is the expectation by many of the participants in the meeting is that they hope that they will be able to discuss more details about a scaled-down fiscal cliff plan. and maybe that could lead to some sort of agreement ideally for all parties in which all the senators say that they will not filibuster it, and it can go to a vote. and then speaker boehner could, in theory, agree to bring it to a vote on the house floor after the house comes back on sunday. and then we would get all of this behind us before new year's eve. how likely does that
and the vice president, they're going to meet with house speaker john boehner, minority leader nancy pelosi, senate majority harry reid and minority leader mitch mcconnell. that is happening this afternoon. jessica yellin is there. jess, what do we know about the president's plan to get everybody in the same room? do we think there's going to be something that comes out of this? >> reporter: well, this is one of those cases where we really are going to have to wait and see, and all the...
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reid and pelosi and boehner and obama all trying to come to an agreement? that seems almost impossible, doesn't it, when you know all of them? gregg: how do you close the tax gap? >> yeah. right now you can not do it. so the tax gap, at least in my opinion, would be the deficit. it's over a trillion dollars. if we raise everyone today, that pays the top tax rate, 35%, if we taxed them at 100% on all the money that they currently pay 35% on, and remember, i'm assuming that nobody changes their behavior. they still work just as hard even though they pay 100% tax, we would only raise $360 billion in this coming year. and that would still leave an $800 billion deficit. we can not tax away the deficit. gregg: sure we can. we can do the value-added tax. >> well, and that's what worries me. if we don't cut spending, spending right now, the federal government is the largest it has ever been as a share of our economy. it takes up more of our economy than ever, the only way to pay for it is to put in a european-style value-added tax. which means every american, every
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number two, plan b was really the idea of chuck schumer and nancy pelosi as recently as in this summer. to set the threshold on incomes to a million dollars versus 250,000, allow those tax rates for a million and above go up, the president talked about taxing millionaires and billionaires, that would be right, and now let the rest of the country enjoy the extension of the full bush tax cuts which i think we now even see democrats acknowledging have meaningful -- gregg: basil, if it doesn't work, the president's going to have egg on his face, right? >> no, not at all. gregg: come on. >> the president has come back with a compromise. the people that have egg on their face are republicans. they've taken intractable positions where as the president has made concessions, boehner cannot show leadership to get anything passed through his congress right now. and, quite frankly, they're being sort of held by the tea party against some extraordinary positions that they have to take at a time when the paradigm has shifted. so i think the country is recognizing that the country -- gregg: looking a
number two, plan b was really the idea of chuck schumer and nancy pelosi as recently as in this summer. to set the threshold on incomes to a million dollars versus 250,000, allow those tax rates for a million and above go up, the president talked about taxing millionaires and billionaires, that would be right, and now let the rest of the country enjoy the extension of the full bush tax cuts which i think we now even see democrats acknowledging have meaningful -- gregg: basil, if it doesn't...
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senator mcconnell says that was the first time he heard from any democrat, president, senator reid, nancy pelosi, anybody in about a month in terms of talking about the fiscal cliff. so everyone has sort of delayed really facing all of th up against the deadline now, jon. jon: that seems clear. ed henry at the white house there. ed, thank you. stay on it for us. for more on this let's bring in the editor of "campaigns & elections" magazine, shane deapril. campaigns and elections might be appropriate here because some say there is a lot of political posturing going on. you have said the feeling in washington it might actually be better to go over the cliff and come back and negotiate. why? >> yeah. now, this is of course purely political campaign calculation here, tossing aside the nation's fiscal health frankly. for both side i think there is good argument to be made for congressional leaders, democratic leaders and republican leaders in particular, there may be less political risk here actually if we do go over the cliff and figure out a solution very quickly afterwards. if you go back to what
senator mcconnell says that was the first time he heard from any democrat, president, senator reid, nancy pelosi, anybody in about a month in terms of talking about the fiscal cliff. so everyone has sort of delayed really facing all of th up against the deadline now, jon. jon: that seems clear. ed henry at the white house there. ed, thank you. stay on it for us. for more on this let's bring in the editor of "campaigns & elections" magazine, shane deapril. campaigns and elections...
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had made calls to the top four congressional leaders mcconnell and boehner on the republican side, pelosi and reid on the democratic side. we'll see what the president has in mind when he touches down back in washington a little later this morning, harris. harris: mike you mentioned it. i'm mentioning it too. it is coming into the newsroom from senator mcconnell's spokesperson and just wondering what the republicans say they want. they want to review legislation and make decisions how best to proceed. they're waiting for now the white house to make the next move. >> reporter: there is definitely a game of chicken going on where the senate democrats are saying, well we need to know from mcconnell what he is willing to do. mcconnell is saying i will not rubberstamp a plan i haven't seen so you need to lay out a plan. we know from speaker boehner's spokesman he is in ohio. he will let us know if he is coming back to washington. we expect there will be a conference call with house republicans later this afternoon to talk about the way forward on the fiscal cliff. we got this from another hous
had made calls to the top four congressional leaders mcconnell and boehner on the republican side, pelosi and reid on the democratic side. we'll see what the president has in mind when he touches down back in washington a little later this morning, harris. harris: mike you mentioned it. i'm mentioning it too. it is coming into the newsroom from senator mcconnell's spokesperson and just wondering what the republicans say they want. they want to review legislation and make decisions how best to...